Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman Saved Their FriendshipWith Couples Therapy

In their debut book ‘Big Friendship,’ the hosts of ‘Call Your Girlfriend’ explore the joys and challenges of their 11-year bond

Christina M. Tapper
ZORA

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Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman. Photo: Describe the Fauna

Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman, hosts of the popular podcast Call Your Girlfriend, have been friends since 2009. Like a lot of friendships between BFFs, they’ve given each other much-needed pep talks, shared memorable vacations, and navigated uncomfortable conversations. Sow, a writer and cultural commentator, and Friedman, a journalist and media entrepreneur, value Big Friendship, which they define as “a strong, significant bond that transcends life phases, geographical locations, and emotional shifts.” Big Friendship is also the name of their new bestselling debut book, which explores the delights, complexities, and challenges of friendship, and what it takes to keep it going.

ZORA caught up with the long-distance besties to talk about love languages, going to couples therapy, and healing after a friendship ends.

This interview has been edited and condensed for clarity.

ZORA: After reading Big Friendship, I kept thinking about love languages. What are your friendship love languages?

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Christina M. Tapper
ZORA
Writer for

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